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Making Gambling a rule

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by JustARegularPotato..., May 19, 2017.

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Should Gambling become a rule?

Poll closed Jun 2, 2017.
  1. Yeah mayne.

    81.8%
  2. No, fuck you mayne.

    18.2%
  1. JustARegularPotato...

    JustARegularPotato... Premium Member

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    In all honest opinions, i think gambling is alright. But to others, it's just an easy way of making money and no hard work. i like doing 10k rolls but when stakes get higher and people do anywhere between 100k to 500k it's struggling. Also, it's a way to get perma'd easily if you don't have the money. To be honest, i would like to see if this could become a rule or not. Lemme know what you think. @Simple @Medic
     
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  2. Christ

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    What exactly do you mean when you say you want gambling to become a rule?
     
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  3. Canadian-bacon

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    How about a rule where you can't do random /roll in the street. Has to be a casino?
     
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  4. Hades

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    I'm personally against most gambling, and I would be in favor of making "rolling" against the rules. I'd like to see more complex gambling because that would actually be fun. Not the rigged ones like the spinners. Not just walking up to people and asking "100k roll?"
     
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  5. its ya boi troy

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    The thing people don't get is the casinos people make are absolute scams. You'll have like a 30% chance of winning just 2x ur money. If we had some sprt of addon for gambling it wouldn't matter. But what the fuck does everyone have against rolling?
     
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  6. Christ

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    People like flashy lights and spinny stuff. It's more fun to watch than just two numbers popping up on the screen. Also I don't think that the people making bets every once in a while are really considering how bad the odds are.
     
  7. Medic

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    Ive already had a discussion with staff and most agreed it's need to be 1. Limited, whether it's make a job seperatly for gambling and make it only 5-7 slots or some other method to limit how many people do it. And 2. Implement a system like Illusion recommended and have the 2 work together. That'll limit the amount of people who can gamble within the rules because we'll make rules for the job, and it'll make gambling safe.

    The amount of gambling that exist now days is just ridiculous and it's out of hand that, that's being done more than farming, gunsmithing, etc. I'm tired of dealing with scammings, and I'm tired of half the server sitting in front of bank instead of roleplaying. It's out of control.
     
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  8. its ya boi troy

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    Farming is a joke. I use to do it all the time. It would take me two to three hours of doing ever single farming method at once to make 100k. Gunsmithing, no one buys guns anymore no reason to do that. I agree a system needs to be added in but let us be for now.
     
  9. Medic

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    There's no reason why I get on the server and there 64 players on and only 2 people are basing. The rest is followed by people either in front of the bank or making cancer casino buildings. It doesn't matter if our old forms of "entertainment" are boring, it's the fact that people aren't doing any sort of roleplaying. They're literally sitting there making tons of money off of a damn command. Its not making money anymore, its not testing your luck, its more like abusing the system at this point. Again, I'm tired of dealing with scamming ban requests, complaints, etc. because I cant do anything about the 5 mil someone lost. Loyal members of the community are put in a position and have testy decisions to make, and 9/10 make them and it results in their perma ban. Its clearly not something a lot of the server can handle. The fact that people with 2 hours already have betting stands up just makes it clear its beyond a problem. New players should be using our features, not a feature and other server has.
     
  10. its ya boi troy

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    That has absolutely nothing to do with gambling. People don't base, because the asshole owner said he was gonna wipe the fucking server. Did that happen... no, do we know when it will happen... no. So why waste hours, when all our stuff can be gone the next day. Which is why people gamble they don't care about there money because so call "wipe" is coming.
     
  11. Canadian-bacon

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    Why should new players base when they get raided by parties of 10+ with full kevlar and rifles?
     
  12. Medic

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    I hope you realize that when the wipe is near, plenty of notice is given. All Ive heard is excuses that don't excuse the mass quantity of people who gamble because it's easy money that shouldn't be there. I mean you've existed on the server for what, 6-7 months and you got the 5 mil Lambo a few months into playing. I wonder why every other concept would be boring lmao. Nobody's grinded that much that quickly on Chronet, so that's probably why you're burnt out. Either way, it's more than just the fact it serves 0 roleplay. It's also what probably cause the retarded ass gun prices that exist now. People are getting mass quantities of guns via gambling. People are crafting them and getting 0 income, thus only worsening the gun eco because they got it from nothing and feel they should get even MORE money than their bs gambling schemes. There's just way more cons than pros with gambling. I honestly have yet to hear 1 good reason why half the server should be allowed to gamble as much as people have been in the last few months.
     
  13. JustARegularPotato...

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    @Christ Basically what @Medic is Saying. But i have to some agree with @its ya boi troy because i don't have a problem with gambling. It's just the amount of money new players make in less of an hour.
     
  14. Illusion

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    I'm still thinking my idea is the best. Make a menu like the trading menu.

    Gambling, as easy as it is, it is also the easiest way to lose 3.5mil @its ya boi troy
    I think gambling is okay as long as no scamming takes place, which is why the menu would be a good idea. It would eliminate any possible scams.
     
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  15. Medic

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    I mean, a random player with 2 hours coulda bet that and won, then it'd be a player who doesn't deserve several millions. It's a broken system with 0 restrictions which is why it's a problem. And that still doesn't address the mass amounts of people who rely only on that for income and rely only on that. If you do it consistently everytime you're on, clearly it can't be that bad. If it was that bad you'd go broke instantly and never risk it again. I'm not against gambling whatsoever. But I'm against on how much it's currently used, and how it's used. Example, primary source of income, which many people rely on it for a normal consist source of income. It should be risky to the point where people who are both poor and wealthy don't instantly resort to it.
     
  16. KJM

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    Gonna bump this

    Can we just remove gambling.... while it may be a source of money for some others just lose all their shit and it causes some problems and honestly it's a fucking plague and the cure needs to be found ASAP because making money through gambling in mad easy and there is no way in hell that people (Including myself) should be able to get 700k and loads of guns within an hour or 2.... it's broken too shit and it contributes to role play in no way whatsoever...... can we just remove gambling ? Like soon ?
     
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  17. Medic

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    Last night, 20 people on the server and 5 of them were in front of bank gambling for like the 2 hours I was on. Today, 10-15 just sitting in front of the bank the entire time I was on only gambling. The fact people are gambling million dollar items and mass gun inventories just shows its gone too far. It's literally breaking the economy. Someone getting 30 guns from /roll rather than actually paying for them is slowly but surely breaking the economy as a whole. Thats probably why people are trying to sell me deagles for 4.5k and M3s for 7k. I actually laugh at the gun dealers when they throw prices like that. Its not like one day someone decided to list prices like this, because everyone would decline it if that was the case. It clear our eco is breaking and this is only way that thats possible. Like Jeffy said as well, people should not be able to make hundreds of thousands even millions off a simple command. Its needs much balance, restrictions, and limitations.
     
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  18. Christ

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    You wouldn't be able to gain 700k and an asston of guns if an asston of players weren't rich as hell. Sure it's easy money now, but I can see people being much more conservative if we get a decent economy rebalance with the wipe. (Yeah, yeah, Soon™) Not saying there shouldn't be limits, but a massively inflated economy really isn't helping the issue at all.
     
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  19. Clorox Bleach

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    Not gonna quote them cause to hard on mobile but about breaking the eco, one guy won like 70 famas and was/is(idk haven't been on for a week) selling them for 10k instead of 14 lowering the price people want to pay for them from others
     
  20. Medic

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    And that's a perfect example to why our gun prices inflated for no reason.